Mallyx the Unyielding

[mura]

To begin with:

I'd like to stress the seriousness of this post. Only the devoted need read below. For any interested parties---some very high-end lightbringer point farming will have to take place. The rewards will be great but so will the sacrifices. Roughly 8 hours would be needed to get tier 5 for everyone.


gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mallyx_the_Unyielding_%28Quest%29

To begin with---

Mallyx is similiar to Urgoz + Kanaxi in the manner of what makes him somewhat tolerable to beat. Mentioned classes of great import are the token warrior, monks, mesmer, ele, paragon, and ritualist.

As such---some guild members would likely have to farm HEAVILY on a class they might not be quite so fond of.

If you look at the guildwiki link and click on the bosses---you can note the greens they drop. Regular enemies also drop greens although they aren't technically bosses.

I personally favor Mallyx's Reaver as well as the Blood Spear. I'm sure everyone has their own favorites skin-wise and such.

I'd also like you to read the strategem for what the fight of Mallyx will end up like:

gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Ebony_Citadel_of_Mallyx_%28Mission%29

If there are those still willing to shoot for this---I would like a honest commitment stated. <.< I'm done with my other commitments on GW now (besides Shekoss [damned earth ele green boss]). So if I'm going to go ahead and farm hard the LB points to help make the other members LB farming go faster and easier---I want to know some devoted folks are behind this.

Also of note: Once Mallyx is dead---then and only then will you be able to add Razah to your PVE selection. You can buy the stones required for him---but I believe they were 200k per stone---as my memory serves.

Voice off then~

[Khunlin]

Well Mura, I have the time and the means to come along, and I'll join if we get enough people.

[Kaiser]

Well, Mura, in order for me to devote 8 hours to something like this, we would have to start pretty early, or I will be asleep before we get to the end >.< Unfortunately, that may mean starting before some people *cough*Khunlin*cough* can get permission from the gamer nazi to start playing. To end at a reasonable hour, we would have to start no later than 7pm EDT (4pm MST/PDT; this still doesn't get us through until 3am EDT - not the most reasonable hour). The other option is a large pot of coffee and a six pack of Red Bull, and I don't know what that would do to me. I am very much willing to participate, though. I currently have my Ele and Ranger through the game, but I can try to rush some of the others through (I have a necro, rit, monk, and warrior from your list - and I can start and rush a paragon if need be). Just let me know what I need to start rushing through. I don't mind farming LB points, as long as it doesn't get too monotonous. So count me as a serious commitment, as long as we can work out the timing.

[Delor]

I want in, but dunno if I'll have the time except on a weekend. unfortunately I don't get off work until midnight EST. I have a Paragon already through the campaign and tier 3 LB, or I can rush Delor through for a necro or my itty bitty Dervish could be rushed too I suppose.

[Jupiter]

I read the 8 hour commitment to be the time needed to get the LB points not the time needed IN the Domain of Anguish. Mura, if you could clarify...I can't get to the links to read about the quest/mission info.
My closest of the listed professions would be ele, paragon and monk. None of which have even reached level 1 LB and I assume the desired ele would be a nuker which mine is most certainly not. My ranger is somewhere in lvl 2 but I'm guessing those aren't as desired based on your post. Depending on the timeframe you are looking for, I would seriously like to pursue this but honestly I'd like a non-serious trip first just to check things out. I'm not a farmer as you all know and I do not like areas that are ugly (particularly pulsating, hairy areas). If it's not something to look forward to (hear: I DO like a challenge) I can't say I'll be motivated to spend lots of time in an undesirable location just to get points to make it through another undesirable location for cool drops.
I already have some stretch goals for myself most of which would not be advanced during this time of LB farming. If there are enough people I can certainly crank up my LB levels on whatever is needed but this will require great forethought and planning as a group (no last minute char switches!) which have not been our strengths. I also don't think people should start characters they've not played (much), rush them through and then try to take on an elite mission. We'll want everyone on characters they are good and comfortable with if possible.

I reread this and it sounds very negative, and for that I'm sorry. I get this is a huge undertaking and takes away a bit of the light fun I like to have with GW. I'd like more info before signing up...some of which I will get by doing my own research and some I'll have to wait and see what kind of response we get.

[mura]

The links work for me. So I'm not sure what the problem is. Since they aren't for you---go to Google and type in Mallyx the Unyielding guildwiki. You should get the base article then.

As for the time: The 8 hours is an estimate of the twenty minute runs is takes to go through a select route through the gate of secrets where you hit the various Margonite mobs for a quick 250 LB point run of 10-20 minutes. I estimated that it would be on the 20 minute end of the spectrum in the worst case scenario. So it could realistically only be 4 hours. The range is thus 4-8 hours of pre-prep time.

Once you get into the GoA, I can't particularly specify a time. This isn't like Urgoz or Kanaxi in regards to you get to them, you screw up, you die, you have to repeat. This is a quest. So you have to visit various areas of the Domain of Anguish to kill off his overlords before returning to attempt the final part of the quest that is mission like. However, if you fail you can pick up from the Mallyx stage yet again.

It's work in a similar manner to any multi-objective quest.

As for characters, I took a guess based off the only now true tips against him:

* Mallyx has heavy armor (80 AL), and can shrug off ordinarily devastating blows with ease. Because of this, Air Magic spells and other armor-penetrating skills are particularly effective against him (Air spells do 100% damage against him). Even more effective are spells that ignore armor entirely as are some elementalist skills such as Obsidian Flame and necromancer skills like Shadow Strike.
* Ritualists are perhaps the best class built to deal with Mallyx, as they do not rely on enchantments. He has no way to deal with Spirits or Weapon Spells, making these useful for defeating him. Displacement and Shelter are very potent in containing Mallyx on his own.
* Disabling Mallyx's skills with skills like Blackout.

So your air magic would help. Diversion and blackout were skills mentioned that would help out (as such: I imagine a mesmer secondary would suffice). However----a ritualist primary would be necessary.

Class wise---I'm just saying we'll still have to implement a balanced line-up for efficiency's sake. People beat Mallyx with heroes. >_> So we can go that route if needed.


As for the ugly area comment. It'll be new environments in the realm of darkness. Thus I cannot comment on how they look other then they won't be pretty short of you having a gothic taste.

<.< As such---I'm not worrying about specific character sign-ins up now. I just want to get as lengthy a list as possible. ~_~ It's heroable but since they don't have LB's gaze, it'll defeat really....the spirit of the guild conquering the dark Margonite lord.

[Jupiter]

The links are fine I'm sure...it's me being at work and them having to do with "Games" that makes me not able to see them.
I do like the "spirit of the guild conquering the dark Margonite lord" prospect!

Bah, I'm typing and deleting all sorts of questions that I just need to go look up! I'll do some reading tonight and have an educated answer later.

[Triia]

I'm always interested in the high-end missions, if anything, just to see how challenging they really are.

My Dervish is the farthest along, although she hasn't completed the game and my Mesmer isn't too far behind. My Monk, Necro and Ele are somewhere closing in on Vabbi. My Warrior is just into Kourna and my poor Ritualist is still waiting on boat for the mainland.

I think I'd need to find out who I'd be expected to bring and focus on that particular character, if I was going to do this. I'm waaaaay behind in the LB points department and farming for them is... well... I understand the necessity but it's not very appealing.

In any case, I've always hoped we'd have a chance to try this out as a guild. I'm just not sure how fast I can get a character or characters there with the adequate LB ranks. If I know who I need to be working on, I'll certainly work on making some progress though.

[Kaiser]

Oh, sorry. I misread that as it would take us 8 hours to get to level 5 in the Domain of Anguish (like the "levels" in the Deep and Warren). I guess it helps to read your linked information before I go mouthing off. If it is in fact 4-8 hours of LB point farming, we could spread this out over several days. Say, half hour or so a night (should be worth ~500 points, ne?).

[mura]

Well, it seems class is the biggest hang-up question.

To get a sense of this----you'll first have to consider the party number: 8.

Now---if you consider the pve prospect of the gates---you should know what works best for plowing through.

This is what I generally go with:
2 monks
3 or 4 casters
The optional other melee
2 tanks (Dervish or Warrior)

If the tankers can hold the enemies....it's readily easy to hit them hard with some aoe. Which is where the eles shine.


I can denote any of the classes short of assassin (because....I didn't want to bother attempting to get a group for the GoP mission).

Khunlin: Hasn't specified what he can work with.

Kaiser has an ele and a ranger.

Jupiter has an ele, paragon, and monk.

Delor has a paragon

Triia WILL have a dervish.

Thus we have 6 of the 8 possibilites. As such, I'm not going to be suggesting any---run throughs at this moment until we have the final 2 possibles suggested.

As for the massive lightbringer farming---think about it this way: To those who were doing the Titan Source quests.....

That was roughly 3-4 hours long. >_> As a group, we passed it quite nicely....and in a pleasant manner. The farming could occur in a similar manner. It's not like we have to have one massive farming expedition.

The way to easily do this is roughly to take half an hour a day and do the Gate of Secrets run. You'll earn roughly 750 lightbringer points like that.....then you spread it out.

If everyone who can agrees to do that for a week daily---that's 3,750 LB points before Saturday.

As such---you'll be half-way before Saturday (....and this is on the basis of assuming you have no LB points. Which is incorrect for anyone who has beat the game).

It's all pacing. Thus everyone could be at rank 5 with a massive LB farming expedition on some future Saturday.

These are just ideas though----and all can be adapted to the feedback of all here.

....and sorry about the repetition. <_< But Kaiser posted between my lengthy reply.

[Jupiter]

OK just saw the tormented bows (and the other weapons) and I'm in. I'll do whatever is needed. Mallyx's stuff is nice too...but oh the purple shinyness! ;D

[mura]

Then we need two more. >_> .....and then we need to establish a week of LB farming.

[Malae]

I would love to be involved in this.
I don't exactly have *anyone* far in the game. But.. nice thing is i'm off of school for 2 weeks, so uh.. I have time to go crazy. You can put me in as a possible, if I can get myself far enough in enough time.

I'm thinking i'll be playing my necro, since she's likely the fastest.
But i've got:

Warrior
Ranger
Monk
Ele
Paragon

That are viable alternatives for me to play insanely on, if they would be better suited.

[mura]

In regards to Delor + Malae.

Given you play less frequently than the more obsessive members.... >_> The fact is even if you can set aside time for the massive farming element---you'd (don't quote me here) also have to set aside time for a lengthy quest work. I'm guessing 5-6 hours (although it doesn't have to be done all at once)

As such---I'd like to kinda get an idea about your schedules and such. Since that'll have to be taken into consideration. Assuming the interest is still there....

Because if not. We'll have to go with heroes. Although---I don't like that idea.

[Delor]

Well...uh...I just got engaged a couple hours ago so I have time during the mornings between classes, and maybe while watching our new puppy after class. Its a black puggle. Anyway I'm working on getting my dervish leveled up, but I might take her to Tyria unless we need her. I can also turbo-rush another character (including monk because screw the survivor title tier 2 and 3). I am lacking in elites for several classes though.